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Greetings everyone! I am Margaret Ogilvie, stepping in after Warren E. “Mick” Barnes as the new Brinsley Barnes II specialist for the Barnes Genealogy project. I thank Mick for his extensive research and Hugh for making it available to me. Click to view Margaret’s picture & bio.
Herein I attempt to list and expand on all known sources of information on Brinsley Barnes II (son of Brinsley and Elizabeth Barnes of Chester County, Pennsylvania and Orange, Chatham, Burke and Wilkes Counties, North Carolina) who eventually migrated to Fayette County, Kentucky.
Make that all known reliable sources. I have omitted various unsubstantiated claims (of the hearsay variety) which I have seen around for a long time; no progress appears to have been made in identifying the primary origins of these allegations. If I have left out any credible sources, please let me know.
As genealogists, we want to solve mysteries, and we strive to fill in the blanks in the lives of our ancestors. I loved Nancy Drew as much as anyone, but in the real world, we just cannot solve all mysteries. And I feel we need to embrace or at least acknowledge the blanks for what they are and not fill them in prematurely. It is tempting and enjoyable to speculate on what might have happened, but when we do, let’s make it clear that we are not stating facts. Let’s allow those who follow us to recognize that there is still work to do and, hopefully, to know the joy of discovering new and awesome information. And maybe even give us some help!
Birth and Early Years
Brinsley II was likely born in Chester Co., PA between 1735 and 1750, although to my knowledge, there is no proof of either the date nor the place. However, taken together, records of Chester Co. –
1734 – Birth of Mary Barnes, daughter of Brinsley and Elizabeth Barnes [1 a]
1734-1738 – Brinsley on the tax list for Kennett Township [2 a]
1741 – Elizabeth Barnes received into membership of the Kennett Quaker church [2 c 1]
1743-1745 – Brinsley and Elizabeth were witnesses to various marriages [2 d]
1744 – Birth of Anne Barnes [1 a]
1748-1751 – Brinsley on the tax list for Kennett Township [2 a]
1753 – Quaker records naming Elizabeth Barnes [2 c 2, 3]
– imply that the family was living there continuously from 1734-1753. (Caveat – the Barneses are evidently not detected in Chester Co. between 1746 and 1748.) Regarding the birth date, the 1771 deed conveying 146 acres in Chatham Co. from Brinsley Sr. to his son Brinsley Jr. [3 a p. 103], suggests that Brinsley II may have been an adult at that time (although it was not necessary to be over 21 to own land, only to sell it [1 p. 43]); if he was over 21, that gives us a birth year of 1750 or before.
So probably Brinsley II was born between 1735 and 1750 in Chester Co., PA and spent his first years there. The family moved to Orange Co., NC between September 1753 – the date of the last Kennett Quaker record of Elizabeth Barnes [2 c 3] – and 20 March 1754 – the date of Brinsley Sr.’s land entry for 640 acres in Orange Co., NC . (Usually, the grantee was in the state at the time the entry was filed .) The 640 acres obtained by Brinsley I consisted of land near the confluence of Mudlick Creek and Rocky River, the tract lying on both sides of the river [3 d p. 196-197, 5 a].
Marriage and Children
I wish I had more to tell you about the wife of Brinsley II. We have few contemporary traces of her.
A marriage record has not been found. Did Brinsley II’s acquisition of land in 1771 coincide with his intention to start his own family or his need to begin providing for a new wife and the children to follow?
In 1803, Brinsley and his wife sold 50 acres of their land to Moses Barnes. Brinsley’s wife is named as Isabella Barnes [6 a].
In 1811, she and Brinsley sold another 52 ½ acres to Moses, and 106 acres to Thomas: on both of these recorded deeds, Brinsley’s wife is named as Lydia Barnes [6 b].
This is the same Brinsley in all three transactions, as all the parcels transferred to Moses and Thomas are part of the more southern tract of land that Brinsley bought from Jesse Copher, that deed having been recorded in 1801 [6 c].
[Incidentally, I don’t yet know what became of the rest of the land Brinsley bought from Jesse Copher. More deeds need to be found.]
But are Lydia and Isabella the same woman?
One more document may shed light on this, the deed conveying 50 acres of land in Chatham Co., NC from Robert Williams to Edward Teague. One of the witnesses listed is Lidda Isabella Barnes [7 b].
Could this Lidda Isabella be the wife of Brinsley II? She was in the right place at the right time. The land described in the deed she witnessed was located on the Rocky River, as were the 640 acres originally belonging to Brinsley I [7 b, 3 a p. 103-104].
The date is May of 1772, which would have her married in plenty of time to bear the children we know of.
Speaking of which…
We can do no more than estimate the birthdates of most of the children. We have firm dates only for Brinsley III (4 January 1784) from his tombstone in Little Flat Rock Christian Church Cemetery, Rush Co., IN, and Rachel (21 July 1791) from hers in Weston Cemetery, Elizabeth, Jo Daviess County, IL . The birth years for Moses, Thomas, Aaron, Edward, and John can be reasonably well calculated by observing the years in which they became tax payers (see section on Fayette County taxes, below).
Isabella Lucy Barnes who married James Barnes in Madison Co., KY 10 November 1790 [7 c] has been proposed as a daughter of Brinsley II. This is believable although proof is lacking. If we make the assumption that she was over 21 – no consent is seen on the original marriage document, however, they seemed to be listing such as none is seen for any of the other marriages either – that gives us 1769 or before as a birth year. Or 1772 or before if they were using 18 rather than 21.
Discrepancies: Isabella Lucy Barnes, with the above marriage date and spouse, is found in the IGI with a birth date of 1 January 1770 and birthplace of Orange Co., NC; parents are given as Brinsley Barnes and Lydia Isabella Teague. Isabella Barnes, with the same husband, marriage date, and place, is also listed, but she as having been born in Virginia on 17 January 1770 to Thomas Barnes and Luranna Moon, with a death of about 1840. Yet we have a James and Isabell Barnes on the 1850 Census, Buchanan Co., MO, birth years 1770 and 1771, respectively, with children born in Kentucky although their own birthplaces are both stated as Virginia [9 a]. However, two of their children (Thomas and Benjamin) found on the 1880 census give their parents’ places of birth as NC [9 b, 9 c].
Notes on this James Barnes: He can reliably be shown to be a son of John Barnes of Wilkes Co., NC, who was a son of Brinsley I and Elizabeth. There is a James named in John’s will of 1822 [10 a]. In 1829, Brinsley Barnes of Wilkes Co., son, and executor of John Barnes, deceased, gave his power of attorney to James Barnes of Estill Co., KY [1 c].
Moses and Thomas 1773 – I don’t have enough information to differentiate their dates of birth, perhaps they were twins.
We postulate an unknown daughter based on Brinsley II’s consent in 1811 for the marriage of his granddaughter Polly Swim* [9 h]. [Editors note – Probably Swaim]Polly must have been under 21 to have needed a guardian’s consent, so let’s place her birth between 1791 and 1795 (assuming she was at least 16). Using a little arithmetic, I would put Polly’s mother’s birth no later than 1779, more likely before (as 1779 would have them both no older than 16 at marriage).
*Elsewhere she has been reported as Polly Arvin [1 b]. Viewing the original record provided at familysearch.org, I see that this is a penmanship problem. Polly’s last name is written sloppily; the first letter could be an A, but comparing it with other A’s and S’s on the page, I judge it to be an S. The second letter is certainly not an r. The w is badly written also, missing the midsection of the final upstroke. Swim is the best interpretation I can make. Searching the 1809-1811 tax lists of Fayette, Madison and Estill Counties, I find no Swim, although in 1809 and 1810 there is a George Swan in Fayette Co. I suppose Swan is a possible interpretation of the writing if the top of the letter a was not closed.
Another probable daughter was Elizabeth Snow, who died in 1814, leaving four orphans (her husband George having pre-deceased her). Moses Barnes was appointed administrator of her estate, with Brinsley Barnes (not specified whether Jr. or Sr.) as security; Moses Barnes also was appointed guardian to “Mahaly, Polly, and William Snow, infant orphans of George Snow, dec’d, under the age of 14 years, and John Snow, infant orphan of George Snow, dec’d, over the age of 14 years.” Further mention of John states he was 14 on the “9th day of November last” [1 d]. Buyers at the April 23, 1818 estate sale of Elizabeth Snow in Fayette Co. included Edward Barnes, Brinsley Barnes, Sr., Brinsley Barnes, Jr. and William Ball (husband of Rachel Barnes) [1 e]. We can only surmise an approximate birth year for her based on the age of her oldest child (and it is merely an assumption that John was the oldest, she may have had older children who didn’t survive). John was born in 1803, so we can make of that what we will.
Brinsley III born 4 January 1784
Rachel born 21 July 1791. We can prove her a daughter through the consent to her marriage signed by her father Brinsley Barnes on 21 June 1810 [2 e].
A possible daughter was Anne Barnes who married Thomas Morris 5 July 1813 in Fayette Co., KY [9 f]. Neither the 1810 Census nor the 1813 tax list for Fayette Co. turns up any Barnes other than Brinsley who could be her father. We find a Thomas Morris on the 1820 Census in Madison Co. with one male under 10, a white male and a white female 16-25 (age 25 being consistent with a couple who married in 1813 at age 18, but wouldn’t they have needed parental consent?) and also a white male and white female over 45 [9 g]. Could this be Brinsley II and Lydia Isabella (who cannot be found on the 1820 census)? Could also be folks on Thomas’ side of the family. On the other hand, we cannot be certain that this Thomas is Anne’s husband.
Orange and Chatham Counties, North Carolina
We first see the name of Brinsley II as the son of Brinsley I in the land records. A deed dated the nineteenth day of September 1771 conveyed 146 acres of land from “Brinsley Sen. of Chatham County in the province of North Carolina of the one part and Brinsley Jun. son of the sd. Brinsley Barnes Sen. …” [3 a p. 103].
Now let’s backtrack a little and see how the land was obtained, to begin with by Brinsley Sr., and while we’re at it, we can also trace what became of this property.
Some background on land grants: in Colonial days, as in modern times, there were hoops to jump through before you could call the land your own.
The first step was to locate some vacant land (meaning any land not previously granted by the Crown). Then you put dibs on it by filing an “entry”, or application, for it by providing a description of the property to the appropriate government official , .
If after three months there were no challenges to the claim, the entry was approved and the county surveyor received a warrant to measure off the tract, and a plat map would be drawn and sent to the land office. It could be as many as 10 years between the application and warrant , .
After receiving the required paperwork and fees, the government would issue to the new owner his patent for the land .
Brinsley I filed an entry for 640 acres in Orange County on 20 March 1754 .
The patent was apparently issued 19 September 1761. I say apparently as I do not have a copy of said document, however, it is referred to in later deeds as parts of the land were conveyed to others, and this date is stated on these deeds.
So over seven years in this case from entry to patent.
On 26 March 1766, 150 a. went to John Barnes, who in 1791 sold this to John Carter [3 e p. 192].
At some point (I haven’t found this deed), at least 104 a. went to James Barnes, as James sold this land to Adam Moser in 1778 [3 b p. 221].
And of this 640 acres, another 150 a. was conveyed to Samuel Carter on 26 August 1766. This eventually went to Samuel’s son John in 1784 [3 c p. 136].
And as stated at the beginning of this section, in 1771 146 acres went to Brinsley II on
September 19. On 10 June of the same year, an unspecified acreage was also conveyed to Brinsley II [3 a p. 104] (which must have amounted to 102 acres in order, with the 146 acres, to have added up to the 248 acres that he sold to Culberson in 1787). Oddly, this is recorded immediately after the September indenture.
Even more oddly, there is a stipulation on the June indenture which says “…the said Brinsley Barnes Jun. Shall not sell or dispose of the same during the life of the said Brinsley Barnes Sen. to any Person or Persons.” Which is not what happened, as it turned out; Brinsley II did sell that land in 1787 while Brinsley I was still alive.
So by 1771, Brinsley II owned land that was within approximately 2 miles of his siblings John, James, and Mary Carter.
In 1779 Brinsley Barnes Sr. purchased two more tracts of land, 390 acres and 400 acres, on the east side of Rocky River [5 a, b], adjoining his original property which by then had been parceled out to his sons and son-in-law Samuel Carter. (I have not found any transfer to Stephen Hobson, husband of daughter Anne Barnes. Stephen’s father, George Hobson, owned a total of 880 acres in the general vicinity, also near the Rocky River [3 c p. 504], [5 c]. Maybe Brinsley I figured the Hobsons were not in need of more land.)
The 390-acre parcel was eventually conveyed by power of attorney to Brinsley II, and he, in turn, sold it to Andrew Culberson in 1787 [3 d p. 205-206].
Brinsley is listed (as Brindsley Bearns, Jun’r) , along with John Barns and Samuel Carter, in the Roster Of Capt. Joab Brook’s Company, Chatham County, North Carolina Militia 1772 [12 a]. I have found no information on the activities of this militia. Click here for experiences of Chatham Co. during the Revolution which states:
“In the War for American Independence, the people of Chatham County, as in every subsequent struggle, did their full duty. While the county had no organized company or companies in the Continental Army, a large number of our citizens were enlisted in the regular service, and from the pension roll of the soldiers of the Revolution, which was published in 1835, proof is abundant that Chatham County soldiers were in every engagement from Moore’s Creek Bridge to Yorktown.
The bold depredations of the Loyalists (aka Tories) in this section was [sic] a menace to the American cause throughout the entire conflict, and this constant danger necessitated a thorough organization of the Chatham County Regiment of Militia. All able-bodied males between the ages of 18 and 50 were enrolled in this service, and especially during the latter years of the Revolution, they were kept most actively engaged.”
War and Religion
It is curious that we only find records showing that females of the Barnes family were members of the Quaker church. From The Quakers and Their War of Resistance By Doris McLean Bates (found online at https://www.ncpedia.org/quakers-and-their-war-resistance):
From the early years of the North Carolina colony, the Quakers, or Society of Friends, held certain beliefs that differed from those of the other colonists. They believed in pacifism—that war and violence were wrong. They considered any service in the colony’s militia, or even supporting it through taxes, to be unethical. Quakers also held a basic belief in human equality. They thought women were equal to men.
I have to wonder if there were not some interesting discussions around the Barnes family hearths in those days!
On to Kentucky
Map courtesy of Kentucky Kinfolk
At some time before 1787, as that is when he sold all his land, Brinsley must have made the decision to move from North Carolina to Kentucky.
By this time Daniel Boone’s glowing reports of plentiful wildlife and fertile land in Kentucky had undoubtedly reached Chatham Co.
Was there family already present in Kentucky who may have beckoned as well? So far, we just don’t know.
There was a Thomas Barnes who obtained a Virginia land grant in Fayette Co. (later to be in the state of KY) of 2000 acres, surveyed in 1784 and recorded in 1786 [3 d]. I don’t know if there is any connection. I was able to obtain and plot this deed, and the property is about 40 miles NNW of the tracts of land that would later belong to Brinsley Barnes II.
There was an Elijah Barnes on the Fayette Co. tax lists starting in 1790 [7 e].
This is where I really start thinking about how we are missing so many pieces of the puzzle. We have no idea of what extended family might have been in existence. We don’t know if Brinsley I came over from Ireland by himself, with siblings, with parents or otherwise. We don’t know the maiden name of his wife Elizabeth so we are missing that entire side of the family.
What were Brinsley’s circumstances just prior to his decision? He had at least six children, then ranging in age from approximately 2 to 16. He owned at least two properties, 284 acres on the river and 390 acres adjacent. [3 d p. 196 & 205] He had been in proximity to his siblings [13 – various deeds in the Rocky River vicinity mentioning borders with James, John, and Samuel], but in 1778, James sold his 104 acres [3 b p. 221] and in 1783 Samuel Carter sold his 150 acres to his son John [3 c p. 136]. Brinsley I and Elizabeth sold their nearby parcels in 1784 and relocated to Burke Co. [3 c p. 498, 3 d p. 18].
Was he motivated purely by a sense of adventure and opportunity, or was he affected by the decampment of his family members, or was there a family conflict? Later, in 1795, Brinsley II and John would take legal action challenging Brinsley I’s will [1 f] (probably objecting to their brother Jehu being the sole beneficiary), so perhaps there was already tension about Jehu’s undue influence on their father. We can only guess.
This excerpt from the Kentucky State Parks publication, “ William Whitley State Historic Site Historic Pocket Brochure Text” may give us some insight into Brinsley’s inspiration, and also the difficulties that may have faced him on his journey:
One of the first settlers to shape early Kentucky history was a young Virginian named William Whitley. The son of Irish immigrants, Whitley, like many other early Americans, listened to the stories of travelers returning from the frontier; stories of a verdant land, stretching beyond the imagination, and teeming with abundant game. Whitley was intrigued by the tales and tempted by the possibility of a better life.
In 1775, Whitley made his first trip to Kentucky, accompanied by his brother?in?law, George Clark. They found a promising area of Central Kentucky near the Dick’s River and Whitley established a station on land between St. Asaph ? today known as Stanford ? and Crab Orchard.
Whitley then returned to Virginia for his wife Esther, and their two daughters, Elizabeth and Isabella. Whitley describes the arduous journey to Kentucky in the Draper Manuscripts:
“Many times in our travels we had to unpack and at times leave the family to find out a way to get on at times my wife would fall, horse and all and at other times, she and her children all in a file tied together for where one went all must go in that situation we were 33 days in the Wilderness in this unkind season of the year, had rain, hail and snow with the disadvantages of large Cane breaks to wade through we then landed at Whitley’s Old Station.”
Often the terrain was so rough that the horses had to be unpacked and the household goods carried over the mountains. The journey from Virginia to Kentucky lasted 33 days.
By 1775, the Wilderness Road through the Cumberland Gap had been blazed by Boone and 35 axemen, and had ushered 70,000 settlers into Kentucky . From this time until the 1790’s it was suitable for travel only on foot or horseback. After statehood in 1792, the Kentucky legislature approved funds to upgrade the passage, but not until 1796 was it open to wagons and carriages .
We have no records of Brinsley II between the Chatham Co. land conveyances to Andrew Culberson in 1787 and his first appearance on the Fayette Co., KY tax records in 1792.
So we are left to imagine how the intervening years were spent. Did Brinsley journey to Kentucky ahead of bringing his family in order to choose land, clear it and build a dwelling? Did he travel with others? Or were there friends or family already in or near Fayette Co. with whom the Brinsley Barnes family could stay while land and house were prepared?
Perhaps he traveled with his nephew James. As already mentioned, we have a record of James Barnes and Isabella Lucy Barnes’ 1790 marriage in neighboring Madison Co.
Clues in the Fayette County Tax Records
Some Conclusions Regarding Ages of Sons
Free males 21 years of age or older are enumerated (and named) on tax lists if they
own one horse .
Beginning in 1792, we see Brinsley on the tax lists with 200 acres [7 e]. This was land he purchased from Jesse Copher [6 b] which wasn’t recorded until 1801 or 1802 – two deeds of 200 a. each were recorded, one on October 9, 1801, and the other on March 27, 1802 [6 c, 6 d]. Land was taxable from the time it was entered, when the person essentially took possession . Once again, there could be up to ten years between an entry and a recording of a deed. It can be seen by mapping these deeds that they represent two different parcels of land, though they share a border. Why he is never taxed on more than 200 acres, I cannot say.
1792 – Brinsley with 1 white male over 21, and two white males between 16 and 21. (This is consistent with Moses and Thomas being in the household.), 200 a., 5 horses, 11 cattle
1793 – Brinsley with 1 white male over 21, and two white males between 16 and 21, 200 a., 3 horses, 16 cattle [7 e]
1794 – Brinsley on the tax lists with 3 white males over 21 (Moses and Thomas are in the household and have come of taxable age), 200 a., 3 horses, 15 cattle [7 e]
1795 – The revised tax form also added fields to include the number of white males above 16, the number of blacks above 16, and the total number of blacks. (The “number of white males over 21” column was already in place.) 
1795 – I was unable to find anyone with the name Barnes
1796 – Brinsley with 2 males over 21 (Moses and Thomas are listed independently, so we have another male in the household who has reached 21, consistent with Aaron. Brinsley and Moses are listed consecutively, Thomas and James are together on a different page.), 200 a., 5 horses, 14 cattle [7 e]
1797 (Mar. 1) –The Kentucky General Assembly declared “all male persons of the age of sixteen years & upwards and all female slaves of the age of 16 years & upwards” were “tithable and chargeable for defraying the [county] levies” .
1797 – Brinsley with 2 tithes (presumably himself and Aaron; Moses listed immediately previous), 200a., 4 horses [7 e]
1798 – tax list not found
1799 – 1800 Brinsley with 1 voter and 1 tithe, 200 a., 4 horses; listed near Moses and Aaron [7 e]
1801 – Brinsley, Sen. with 1 voter and 2 tithes (as of 1797 the titheable age is 16 years and upwards, so we have one more male who is growing up as Aaron is out on his own for the first time. This is more or less consistent with Brinsley III, born in 1784. Splitting hairs, they might have gone with an interpretation of over 16 rather than 16 and up. Brinsley is designated as Sr. for the first time), 200 a., 3 horses [7 e]
1802 – Brinsley with 1 voter and 1 tithe (Where is Brinsley III? He would be 18 so maybe is somewhere on his own, but we would not see him unless he owned at least one horse.) 200 a., 4 horses [7 e]
1803 – Brinsley with 1 voter and 2 tithes (is Edward 16 now?), 150 a., 8 horses [7 e]
1804 – Brinsley, Sen. with 1 vote 2 tithes, 150 a., 4 horses [7 e]
1805 – Brinsley, Sen. with 1 vote 1 tithe – where is Edward? Again, invisible if he had no horse – 150 a., [7 e]
1806 – Brinsley, Sen. with 1 vote 2 tithes (the second tithe is consistent with John, who first appears by himself in 1811, giving us a birth year of 1790), 150 a. [7 e]
1807 – Brinsley with 1 vote 2 tithes, 150 a., 6 horses [7 e]
1808 – Brinsley with 1 vote 1 tithe, 150 a., 4 horses [7 e] – no horse for John?
1809 – Brinsley with 2 tithes, 150 a., 5 horses [7 e] – John with a horse?
1810 – Brinsley with 1 wm >21, 146 ½ a., 6 horses [7 e]
1811 – Brinsley taxed in Estill Co.: no land, 1 tithe, 6 horses [7 g]
Conclusions Regarding the Ages of Moses and Thomas
By 1794 Brinsley II had 3 white males over 21 in his household. I take two of these to be Thomas and Moses. Thomas and Moses both changed over from the 16-21 category into the over 21 categories in 1794. I did not find any Barneses on the 1795 list, but in 1796, Thomas and Moses are both listed separately. I think we can conclude that Thomas and Moses were very close in age if not twins. (In 1811, on the same day, land was conveyed from Brinsley to Moses and to Thomas [6 b].)
The Mystery in the 1810 Census in Kentucky
Historical Note: Estill County was formed in 1808 from Clark and Madison Counties (not from Fayette County).
Historical Note: The 1810 census was begun on 6 August 1810. The count was due within nine months, but the due date was extended by law to ten months. [9 e] So the dates on which the census taker visited the Barnes family in Fayette Co. and the Barnes family in Estill Co. could have been separated by as much as 10 months: between 6 August 1810 and 6 June 1811.
We have Brinsley Barnes listed twice, but is it the same Brinsley?
Between 1810 and 1812 there was apparently some disturbance in the force for the Barnes family. I could speculate six ways from Sunday on this, but I will refrain unless or until more clues present themselves.
We have Brinsley Barnes Sen. listed in Fayette Co., with one male > 45 and one female >45 (born before 1765), one male 16-25 (b. 1784-1794) – this could be John; and one female 10-15 (1795-1800) – this could be Anne, if she really is a daughter, or Polly Swim, the granddaughter who married in 1811. This is consistent with our Brinsley who is on the Fayette Co. tax list in 1809; he had one extra male over 21.
In Estill Co., we have one male over 45 – check. But no female over 45. Two females under 10, therefore born between 1800 and 1810…
Regarding the birth year of Brinsley’s wife, here assuming that the names Lydia and Isabella referred to the same person –
Moses and Thomas were born about 1773 (supported by tax and census records) and Rachel in 1791 . If we estimate a birth year of 1753, that would make her +/- 20 years old in 1773 and +/- 38 in 1791, reasonable ages for first and last children (and also fine if we include proposed daughter Isabella Lucy who was allegedly born in 1770). But it’s unlikely more kids arrived between 1800 and 1810.
…and two females born between 10 and 16 – born between 1795 and 1800 – still questionable whether these were Lydia Isabella’s, she would have been in her mid-forties then.
Evidence for this being our Brinsley II – Thomas Barnes is listed immediately before him in this census record. Brinsley and Thomas both paid taxes in Estill Co. in 1811.
Somehow these Brinsleys need to end up being one and the same, as, other than Brinsley Jr., we never have two Brinsleys on the tax list. Or? Some unknown Brinsley just passing through?
We also have additional people who cannot be explained in the household of Moses Barnes on the 1810 census.
A final thought – the U.S. Federal Census is not exactly known for its absolute accuracy and reliability.
At some time prior to 25 July 1811, Brinsley II moved over to Estill Co.
The deeds recorded on this date, transferring land to Moses and Thomas, refer to “Brinsley Barnes, Sen. and Lydia his wife of Estill County” [6 b].
And in 1811 Brinsley is on the Estill Co. tax list, with 1 tithe, 6 horses and no land [7 e].
Then Brinsley is found on the tax lists of Fayette Co. 1812 through 1818! Listed as Brinsley Sr., and Brinsley Jr. is there too [7e].
I did not find Brinsley II in 1819, 1820 or 1821.
On the Estill Co. tax list of 1822, we find Brinsley and Brinsley Jr. [7 g]. (Brinsley Jr. is likely the son of James and Isabella Lucy Barnes.) Is the first one Brinsley II or Brinsley III? Did Brinsley III make a stop here on the way to Bourbon Co.?
What signs of Brinsley II do we have between 1818 and 1824 when his estate was settled (other than the possibility of his presence on the 1822 tax list)? In 1818 he attended the estate sale of Elizabeth Snow in Fayette Co. and he was on the tax list. He cannot be found on the 1820 Census, and I have checked the Census listings of all of his children (that I know of) and nobody has an extra >45-year-old hanging around, except potential daughter Anne who was married to Thomas Morris; they do have an older couple in their household, if this is their household and not that of another Thomas Morris.
A picture as they say is worth a thousand words, below I have transcribed the pages that refer to the estate of Brinsley Barnes II. I honestly don’t know how to interpret this. Since they are mentioning vouchers, perhaps these amounts refer to claims against the estate by Aaron, James, and John. Perhaps the dispersal of the $355 by Moses to all the heirs was a separate issue.
The foregoing Settlement with the Administrator of Brinsley Barnes Decd was this
[ @af? ] produced into Court Examined approved of and ordered to be recorded
[All?] AW Quinn CECC
Estill Co., KY Will Book A, p. 256
Estill County [ ct?] November Term 1825
We the undersigned commissioners appointed by the Estill County Court to settle with Moses
Barnes Admr of Brinsley Barnes Decd [Just?] and proceeded to examine and [allow?] the several
vouchers as stated on the following page (to wit) being first sworn Vouchers set –
|2||Clerks & Sherriff’s fees||3||95|
|5||Henry Slavens [?]||1||00|
|6||Sherriff Fayette||18 3/4|
|7||Moses Barnes for Services||22||00|
|The undersigned Comr for Settling||3||00|
|8||Clerks fee bill||2||11 1/2|
|9||Louis Moon fee bill||50|
|10||Louis Moon recpt||1||50|
See page 234 Benj Straughn
Henry Slavens } Comr
Estate County Set
November Court 1825
The foregoing report of the settlement with the Admr of Brinsly Barns Decd was
produced into Courted examined and ordered to be recorded
[Att?] Robert Clark clk
That’s all folks! All for now anyway. We are currently trying to put together a puzzle without all the pieces, and possibly with some pieces from other puzzles tossed in. I have high hopes that more documents will become available to us; a thorough search of North Carolina tax, court, and deed records from the relevant counties should present an absolute treasure trove of information, and there are more records from Kentucky that should be sought as well.
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1. Ramona J. Sadlon, Barnes: Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Kentucky. A Critical Analysis. 1993
a. Hinshaw, William Wade, Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy
b. Estill County, Kentucky Marriage Bonds, 1811-1820
c. “Copied from original Barnes records” in possession of E.B. Barnes, Chillicothe, Missouri
d. Fayette County, Kentucky Court Order Book 7
e. Fayette County, Kentucky Will Book A
f. Wilkes County, North Carolina Court Minutes, 1789-1797
2. Barnes, Warren E. “Mick”, Descendants of Brinsley Barnes 1713-1794 & Elizabeth Lindley along the lineage of Willard Howard Barnes 1907-1974 & Ethel Garnell Davis 1906-1946, 2012
a. Tax Records for Kennett Township, Chester Co., PA
b. Hinshaw, William Wade, Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vo. I, pages 373, 347, 356
c. Women’s, Men’s Minutes, Kennett Monthly Meeting
1. 26 Dec. 1741, p. 132
2. 5 May 1753
3. 1 Sept. 1753
4. 6 Oct. 1753
d. Kennett Monthly Meeting Marriages, 1692-1821, Box PH-265, pp. 80, 140,165, 146, Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College
e. Marriage Consent Document, Fayette Co., KY
3. North Carolina Deed Books, familysearch.org Editors Note: Deed Books are attached to a county of origin. This citation will be revised in August 2017.
a. Deed Book A
b. Deed Book B
c. Deed Book C
d. Deed Book D
e. Deed Book E
f. Deed Book F
4. Leary, Helen F. M. (Ed.), North Carolina Research Genealogy and Local History (2nd ed). Raleigh, NC: North Carolina Genealogical Society. 1996
5. North Carolina Land Grant Images and Data, Link to Land Grant Database
a. Book 36, p. 438
b. Book 48, p.6
c. Book 14, p. 416 & p. 418
6. Fayette Co., KY Records
a. Deed Book A, p. 123
b. County Court Book F, p. 304 – 307
c. District Court Book D, p. 328
d. Deed Book B, p. 116
7. familysearch.org online material
a. Estill Co., KY Order books, 1808-1839 Will Book A, p. 234, 235, 256, 257
b. Chatham Co., Deed Book A
c. Kentucky County Marriages, 1783-1965
d. Chatham Co., NC Deed Book D, pages 205-206
e. Fayette Co., KY Tax Lists
f. Estill Co., KY Will Book A, p. 334
g. Estill Co., KY Tax Lists
1822 Brinsley Sr. & Jr. FamilySearch.org Link
a. 1850 Census, MO, Buchanan Co., Bloomington
b. 1880 Census, MO Worth Co., Middle Fork
c. 1880 Census, MO, Buchanan Co., Bloomington
d. Kentucky Land Grants, 1782-1924
e. Fayette County Kentucky 1810 Census
f. Kentucky Compiled Marriages, 1802-1850
g. 1820 Census, KY, Madison Co.
h. Kentucky Marriages, 1783-1965 >image at familysearch.org
10. Kimberling, Dr. Linda S., “John’Deaf John’ Barnes/Barns (1741-1822)”, https://competitivestrategies.us/john-deaf-john-barnes/
a. Will of John Barnes, transcribed.
11. Family Search Wiki
a. Militia Officers of Chatham County in the Revolutionary War
Roster Of Capt. Joab Brook’s Company, Chatham County, North Carolina Militia 1772
13. Abstracts of Land Entries: Chatham Co., NC. 1778-1790 Pruitt, Dr. A.B. 1990 (Sonoma County Library)
15. Adkinson, Kandie, Land Office, Ky, Secretary of State, Tax Lists (1792-1840) An Overlooked Resource for Kentucky History & Land Title